tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post251923687463431512..comments2023-12-23T09:28:20.869+00:00Comments on The View from Cullingworth: Are 20mph limits the right approach to reducing injury accidents?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-87657324794760299772014-05-21T14:43:30.668+01:002014-05-21T14:43:30.668+01:00Is it always about reducing KSI figures? Maybe the...Is it always about reducing KSI figures? Maybe there are other reasons why we should be reducing speeds.<br /><br />And often the busiest, most pedestrian unfriendly roads are the "safest" because people don't like walking there. You can't knock down a pedestrian who ain't there.philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03792461857045903339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-6480570152432775382014-04-19T11:17:49.246+01:002014-04-19T11:17:49.246+01:00How can councils propose to spend money on this wh...How can councils propose to spend money on this when the roads are full of potholes?Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-8781026075454472982014-04-17T20:33:13.313+01:002014-04-17T20:33:13.313+01:00Simon
Whilst you referenced the report from Ports...Simon<br /><br />Whilst you referenced the report from Portsmouth and in particular drew attention to the "killed and seriously injured rising during the period", you did not mention that the rise was from 19 to 20 or that in the very next sentence to the one quoted the report said "Because the total numbers of deaths and serious injuries and of casualties by road user type and cause are relatively low, few inferences about the scheme’s impacts should be drawn from these figures."<br /><br />Neither did you mention the conclusion of the report that :-<br />"In conclusion, early figures suggest that the implementation of the 20 mph Speed Limit scheme has been associated with reductions in road casualty numbers. The scheme has reduced average speeds and been well-supported during its first two years of operation."<br /><br />Also if you do look at the casualty map for Cullingworth then the largest group of casualties are the "unclustered ones". <br /><br />Such casualties do not benefit from micro-engineering and need a wide-area intervention.<br /><br />And I can confirm that the emails you receive do not come from anyone in their capacity of councilor, but as national campaign manager for 20's Plenty for Us.<br /><br />One of the biggest disadvantages (besides cost) for targeted intervention is that they endorse higher speeds elsewhere. At the end of every small and isolated 20mph zone is a large sign saying that drivers can then go 10mph faster.<br /><br />Already 13m people live in communities where councillors have decided that 20 really is plenty where people live, work, shop and learn. You can find out more at www.20splentyforus.org.uk/briefings.htm<br /><br />Maybe your constituents would be pleased to have a 20mph limit on their streets and community roads.20's Plenty for Ushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12291254624478153955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-23086260730855521422014-04-17T13:56:31.597+01:002014-04-17T13:56:31.597+01:00We had a similar campaign in our area and it was v...We had a similar campaign in our area and it was very sensationalist. MPs and local paper were campaigning for a 20 limit to stop the - Qoute - Thousands of child casualties on our roads.<br /><br />I looked at the figures available on the local government website and RTAs have been steadily declining for the last ten years. Also, there were only 2 child fatalities in the same period.<br /><br />Road safetly seems to be working it self out without any intervention. We seem to be putting way too much emphasis on speed and forgetting all the other reasons that cause traffic accidents.<br /><br />Campaigners seem to have only one need at the end of the day - Something to campaign about. And if it involves saving the kiddies, no matter how remote the link, so much the better.Buckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169970711606515445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-69114450048303888192014-04-17T08:55:19.356+01:002014-04-17T08:55:19.356+01:00More lunacy like Saltaire Road - inflicted with a ...More lunacy like Saltaire Road - inflicted with a 20mph limit which is only relevant for 2 hours a day, 180 term-days a year - that's around 4% of the time.<br />The other 96% of the time, the rest of the world suffers for a tiny minority of bad drivers, a tiny minority of the time. More nanny nonsense.<br /><br />Speed is not the issue, inappropriate driving is the issue and dumb sledgehammer speed-limits will never solve that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-36953751452729181072014-04-17T08:06:16.596+01:002014-04-17T08:06:16.596+01:00A 20mph limit would only be followed by a 15mph ca...A 20mph limit would only be followed by a 15mph campaign... Barmanhttp://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/index.phpnoreply@blogger.com