tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post7108997880405980171..comments2023-12-23T09:28:20.869+00:00Comments on The View from Cullingworth: The impact of the smoking ban on the old...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-26188498503211200092011-02-23T11:29:28.949+00:002011-02-23T11:29:28.949+00:00Thanks for the f2c link, Simon.
To anon just abov...Thanks for the f2c link, Simon.<br /><br />To anon just above, the blogger Frank Davis is asking for people's stories - http://frank-davis.livejournal.com/145432.html (yellow box on side-bar). Many of the quotes on the f2c blog were taken from there.<br /><br />F2c is trying its best to make the politcians aware of what is happening. This horrible law is impacting disproportionately on older people who are being forced to abandon much-loved social habits and, with them, their old social networks. And as pubs close (around 7,000 now), their non-smoking friends are finding themselves in the same position.<br /><br />All to satisfy the demands of a sociopathic minority.auntiebanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08526042509662659109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-37295519128630412592011-02-19T19:58:52.211+00:002011-02-19T19:58:52.211+00:00Always read the blog, but have not ever made a com...Always read the blog, but have not ever made a comment.<br />This time however the blog hit a raw nerve as I realise that I am one of these lonely people that smoke and do not go out any more. As it is 8 p.m. on a Saturday night I would have always been getting a bit dressed up and heading out for a meeting with friends. They mostly smoke and don't bother going out any more. We would catch pneumonia standing outside a restaurant or bar. Nothing much on the t.v. So another early night I suppose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-69476252714563958062011-02-19T15:35:31.848+00:002011-02-19T15:35:31.848+00:00Social isolation is really the whole point of the ...Social isolation is really the whole point of the smoking bans, to encourage smoking cessation.<br /><br />Denormalisation<br /><br />"However, internationally, the term is also used to encompass efforts challenging notions that smoking ought to be regarded as routine or normal, particularly in public settings.<br /><br />Hammond et al state that "social denormalisation" strategies seek "to change the broad social norms around using tobacco—to push tobacco use out of the charmed circle of normal, desirable practice to being an abnormal practice".<br /><br /><br />Smokers as malodourous<br />Smokers as litterers<br />Smokers as unattractive and undesirable housemates<br />Smokers as undereducated and a social underclass<br />Smokers as excessive users of public health services<br />Smokers as employer liabilities <br /><br />"For the individual, an obvious escape from this negativity is to quit smoking, as hundreds of thousands do each year."<br />http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/17/1/25.full<br /><br />Prepare to be ostracised, all you smokers of England<br /><br />"The organisation Ash hopes that four million people, or almost 40 per cent of smokers, will stop because of the ban."<br />http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article1913299.ece<br /><br />And no one is officially allowed even to listen to their plight under the provisions of the FCTC that the previous government signed us up to, incase it should alter policy.<br /><br />"The measures recommended in these guidelines aim at protecting against interference not only by the tobacco industry but also, as appropriate, by organizations and individuals that work to further the interests of the tobacco industry."<br />http://www.who.int/fctc/guidelines/article_5_3.pdf<br /><br />It's hard to know what can possibly be done about it, as everyone who disagrees with this treatment of the elderly, has been effectively silenced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-90155025396450271602011-02-19T12:08:24.006+00:002011-02-19T12:08:24.006+00:00Those examples are just the tip of the iceberg, Si...Those examples are just the tip of the iceberg, Simon. Talk to elderly members of any CIU club and they'll give you a long list of friends who used to use the club but don't anymore because of the ban. There's one I visit once a month to see an elderly relative and even his friends who still <i>do</i> go always bemoan the fact that it's just a miserable place since 2007, they mostly go there because of routine nowadays. <br /><br />Leg Iron has a sensible solution for politicians, but I'm not sure they'll like it ;)Dick Puddlecotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-78244492507380318322011-02-19T11:54:48.843+00:002011-02-19T11:54:48.843+00:00Why not an even simpler profit incentive approach?...Why not an even simpler profit incentive approach? If a business can attract more customers by being non-smoking, and since we non-smokers outnumber the smokers by about 3 to 1 no smoking establishments certainly should lack for trade, then it gets to make more profit than the ones catering to smokers.Angry Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491082312193274360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-16920185592043494312011-02-19T10:21:36.753+00:002011-02-19T10:21:36.753+00:00What would you think of a tax incentive approach?
...What would you think of a tax incentive approach?<br /><br />E.g. a business can state that it is going non-smoking for the next financial year, and if they make a loss (adjusted for the state of the wider economy), then they get a tax rebate to compensate for that loss and can switch back to being a "smoking" establishment (probably with some prominent signage)Alex Bnoreply@blogger.com