tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post8001679254295175510..comments2023-12-23T09:28:20.869+00:00Comments on The View from Cullingworth: "Bloody foreigners" is a lousy case for leaving the EU - I fear this will be the core of the 'out' campaignUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-72924650581420486682015-06-12T12:55:47.328+01:002015-06-12T12:55:47.328+01:00I have two problems with analysis along these line...I have two problems with analysis along these lines:<br /><br />1) There is always some level of ambiguity over how the cost benefits are being defined i.e. are the costs of dependents fully covered including those that come from additional pressures on public services. It may be the case that Mr X from Country Y contributes more in tax than he receives in benefits, but what happens if we have Mrs X who doesn't work and three little X's who need special help at school because they don't speak English, and maybe have a specific medical condition? The question isn't whether or not they are entitled to these benefits, the question is are they in the analysis because they need to be.<br />2) Arguments against immigration are seldom against all immigration, they are against loose immigration control which is an entirely different matter. Economic migration is an economic transaction, we need to consider it as such, Mr X coming to the UK and paying more in tax than he takes in benefits suits both sides. However, if Mr X comes to UK and pays more in tax than he takes in benefits, but the additional costs of supporting Mrs X and three little X's take the overall costs over the benefits than is an entirely different outcome if we're being economically rational (again, I'll stress the point I'm talking about economic migration as an economic activity being viewed through an economic lense). Kamonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-7351683339149994412015-06-10T08:37:24.841+01:002015-06-10T08:37:24.841+01:00EU began scaling back its market regulation of bee...EU began scaling back its market regulation of beet sugar rather than the cane sugar that the firm imports. personal Injury solicitorshttp://www.clearwatersolicitors.co.uk/personal-injury/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9172766774137902766.post-60609118954968717702015-06-09T11:20:26.835+01:002015-06-09T11:20:26.835+01:00That UCL study is flawed. For example, it estimate...That UCL study is flawed. For example, it estimated that eastern European migrants would pay the same amount of corporation taxes as the general population, even though they are less likely to own business shares than the richer UK-born population. The study made other unsupportable assumptions that probably overestimate the Eastern European financial contribution to the UK. <br /><br />I agree with the points you make about the EU aside from migration. But the fact is that uncontrolled, especially unskilled, migration is an issue for most of the British public. I personally have no problem with a controlled number of skilled workers entering the UK, as long as they are productive, assimilate and don't draw on the state until they've contributed. There's 100s of 1000s of Germans or French living in this country, but as their arrival here hasn't been a flood, and they are generally skilled and productive, nobody bothers with them. Eastern and south-eastern European migration in the last decade is different. <br /><br />Turning the EU vote into a referendum on "pulling up the drawbridge" is likely to result in failure. But there's a case supported by the large majority of the public, for controlled, skilled migration, instead of the opposite that is currently the case while we're in the EU. <br /><br />Anyway, I don't think No/Out will win. The most recent poll, asking the govt's preferred question, showed 58% for Yes, 31% for No, and the rest undecided. If I was a betting (wo)man, I'd guess >60% for Yes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com